Category: the Rant Board
Hi all,
well I was hoping they wouldn't do it, but it looks like on march the 11th, they're going to roll the time back 2 hours instead of one. it's so stupid, and will just mess everything up. I guess we'll have to uncheck that automatical adjust for daylight time check box, since computers aren't set to go back 2 hours. it's just plain stupid in my opinion, and i hate it. I was really hoping they wouldn't do it. I've always thought changing the time was stupid, but having to set the clock back or forward 2 hours is way beyond stupid.the clocks on ourcable tv boxes will be way off too.
wonderwoman
Thought it was only one hour... Where did they come up with 2 hours from? That's sort of strange.
Hello there Wonderwoman... I had not heard that. Is it rolled back two hours for all the zones? I am in the central zone. If I remember correctly you are in eastern zone? I guess I should pay more attention to the news.. I think that is absolutely ridiculous. I thought that last year they said that they were going to do away with daylight savings time. Do you remember them talking about that?
Tonja
From the us naval observatory we read this..
Note the fact that there is no mention of a two hour change. I think that would be weird indeed.
"Currently, daylight time begins in the United States on the first Sunday in April and ends on the last Sunday in October. On the first Sunday in April,
clocks are set ahead one hour at 2:00 a.m. local standard time, which becomes 3:00 a.m. local daylight time. On the last Sunday in October, clocks are
set back one hour at 2:00 a.m. local daylight time, which becomes 1:00 a.m. local standard time. These dates were recently modified with the assage of
the Energy Policy Act of 2005, Pub. L. no. 109-58, 119 Stat 594 (2005). Starting in March 2007, daylight time in the United States will begin on the second
Sunday in March and end on the first Sunday in November.
Not all places in the U.S. observe daylight time. In particular, Hawaii and most of Arizona do not use it. Indiana just recently adopted the use of it beginning
in 2006.
• In 2006, daylight time begins on April 2 and ends on October 29.
• In 2007, daylight time begins on March 11 and ends on November 4. [New law goes into effect.]
• In 2008, daylight time begins on March 9 and ends on November 2."
Bob
that's weird, but thanks, nice to know
I'm pretty sure it's only one hour, not two, and it won't be rolled back, it will go ahead one hour. Remember spring ahead and fall back.
I haven't heard anything about the time being changed by two hours, rather than the normal one. That would just be very strange, and a lot of things would be out of sync.
well my mom listens to th enews a lot, and that's what she heard. anyway, I was so upset by the 2 hour time change i didn't consider it going backwards or forwards, but if it does take effect, it will go ahead 2 hours, and i really hope we're wrong about this and it doesn't change from what it already is. I'm use to the one hour time change, since it's been in effectsince sometime in the 40's, but i really hope the time doesn't go ahead and back 2 hours. maybe they're just going to do it in certain states or time zones, i hope they don't do it at all, but if they do, people who haven't heard of it are going to get a huge major shock. I don't watch the news either, I get too easily bored, and most of the news is depressing anyway.
wonderwoman
When we change our clocks
Since 1966, most of the United States has observed Daylight Saving Time from at 2:00 a.m. on the first Sunday of April to 2:00 a.m. on the last Sunday of October. Beginning in 2007, most of the U.S. will begin Daylight Saving Time at 2:00 a.m. on the second Sunday in March and revert to standard time on the first Sunday in November. In the U.S., each time zone switches at a different time.
In the European Union, Summer Time begins and ends at 1:00 a.m. Universal Time (Greenwich Mean Time). It begins the last Sunday in March and ends the last Sunday in October. In the EU, all time zones change at the same moment.
> See more information about elsewhere in the world.
Spring forward, Fall back
During DST, clocks are turned forward an hour, effectively moving an hour of daylight from the morning to the evening.
United States European Union
Year DST Begins
at 2 a.m. DST Ends
at 2 a.m. Summertime
period begins
at 1 a.m. UT Summertime
period ends
at 1 a.m. UT
2003 April 6 October 26 March 30 October 26
2004 April 4 October 31 March 28 October 31
2005 April 3 October 30 March 27 October 30
2006 April 2 October 29 March 26 October 29
2007 March 11 November 4 March 25 October 28
2008 March 9 November 2 March 30 October 26
2009 March 8 November 1 March 29 October 25
March 14 November 7 March 28 October 31
US calculator valid 1976-2099; EU 1996-2099. Change with up/down key.
Date change in 2007
On August 8, 2005, President George W. Bush signed the Energy Policy Act of 2005. This Act changed the time change dates for Daylight Saving Time in the U.S. Beginning in 2007, DST will begin on the second Sunday in March and end the first Sunday in November. The Secretary of Energy will report the impact of this change to Congress. Congress retains the right to resume the 2005 Daylight Saving Time schedule once the Department of Energy study is complete.
Spelling and grammar
The official spelling is Daylight Saving Time, not Daylight SavingS Time.
Saving is used here as a verbal adjective (a participle). It modifies time and tells us more about its nature; namely, that it is characterized by the activity of saving daylight. It is a saving daylight kind of time. Similar examples would be a mind expanding book or a man eating tiger. Saving is used in the same way as saving a ball game, rather than as a savings account.
Nevertheless, many people feel the word savings (with an 's') flows more mellifluously off the tongue. Daylight Savings Time is also in common usage, and can be found in dictionaries.
Adding to the confusion is that the phrase Daylight Saving Time is inaccurate, since no daylight is actually saved. Daylight Shifting Time would be better, but it is not as politically desirable.
When in the morning?
In the U.S., clocks change at 2:00 a.m. local time. In spring, clocks spring forward from 1:59 a.m. to 3:00 a.m.; in fall, clocks fall back from 1:59 a.m. to 1:00 a.m. In the EU, clocks change at 1:00 a.m. Universal Time. In spring, clocks spring forward from 12:59 a.m. to 2:00 a.m.; in fall, clocks fall back from 1:59 a.m. to 1:00 a.m.
In the U.S., restaurants and bars have various closing policies. In many states, liquor cannot be served after 2:00 a.m. But at 2:00 a.m. in the fall, the time switches back one hour. So, can they serve alcohol for that additional hour in October? The official answer is that the bars do not stop serving liquor at 2:00 a.m., but actually at 1:59 a.m. So, they have already stopped serving when the time changes from Daylight Saving Time into Standard Time. In practice, however, many establishments stay open an extra hour in the fall.
In the U.S., 2:00 a.m. was originally chosen as the changeover time because it was practical and minimized disruption. Most people were at home and this was the time when the fewest trains were running. It is late enough to minimally affect bars and restaurants, and it prevents the day from switching to yesterday, which would be confusing. It is early enough that the entire continental U.S. switches by daybreak, and the changeover occurs before most early shift workers and early churchgoers (particularly on Easter) are affected.
Some U.S. areas
For the U.S. and its territories, Daylight Saving Time is NOT observed in Hawaii, American Samoa, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, and Arizona. The Navajo Nation participates in the Daylight Saving Time policy, even in Arizona, due to its large size and location in three states.
A safety reminder
Many fire departments encourage people to change the battery in the smoke detector when they change their clocks because Daylight Saving Time provides a convenient reminder. "A working smoke detector more than doubles a person's chances of surviving a home fire," says William McNabb of the Troy Fire Department in Michigan. More than 90 percent of homes in the United States have smoke detectors, but one-third are estimated to have dead or missing batteries.
> For information about world calendars, see Calendars through the Ages.
http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/b.html
Well, I've been doing some searching on this, and I have to say that I have not found one article that says anything about us changing our clocks from one hour, to two hours. I've only found the fact that we will now be changing our clocks in March and November, rather than April and October. So, WonderWoman, I think it's safe to say that you can feel happy that we'll only be changing the days of when Daylight Saving Time begins and ends, not the amount of hours.
well thats a relief anyway, though I don't know why they've moved it from april to march and october to november.
wonderwoman
I don't understand why they moved it either. I mean for the evenings it would be good because the sunset will be an hour later than it would be but in the mornings sunrise would be later as well which doesn't feel good waking up in the dark.
It might be an experamental period. If they see that is not working they might move it back next year.
well noone on here seems to know anything about it, so i'm hoping they either cdhanged their minds, or they were never going to do it in the first place, i mean it would be weird, it would go from being 9 o clock to 11 o clock in stead of going from 9 to ten o clock. I'vve never thought it useful, but daylight saving time was started long before i was born, so it doesn't bother me too much, but 2 hour time difference would definitely bother me
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IT'S JUST 1 HOUR.
IT'S JUST 1 HOUR.
IT'S JUST 1 HOUR.
Bob
Lol Bob. Your last post sounds like a pop song.
Wonderwoman there is a logick behind the day light time saving thing. As the name says they do it to get more day light during the evenings. Maybe blind people don't realise it much but even an hour of day light makes a lot of difference. Let's say sunsets in June at 9 in the evening. If we didn't have the time change it would be 8 only. This means using our lights for an extra hour which means more electricity waste. So there is a logick behind the time change.
I read about it in the past. I think the first people who used this time change was during the world wars to get more daylight or something. If i find the article i will post it here.
I personally am happy when the time changes at the end of March because the days automatically seam longer even if they are not. It is a sign that Spring has arrived aand it makes me happier for a strange reason.
Well, as I said before, there's absolutely nothing that says there will be a two hour change. It's still going to be the normal one hour change. I read that the reasoning behind the month change (from April/October, to March/November), is to help conserve energy.
They've been planning the change in dates for at least two years now, so I'm sure it has always been planned for it to change just one hour. The government never does anything fast, and they would not have changed their minds about going from two hours to one hour this close to the actual date. Your mom must have heard something wrong or misunderstood something she heard. The plan has never been for a two hour difference.
well what she says she heard, it was going to be gradual, not all at once, so i thought maybe it would be moved one hour as usual in march, then they'd move it the next hour in april, when they suually change the time
wonderwoman
For those who use windows/xp, if you keep your computer up-to-date with the latest updates from microsoft,
yesterday, as I was going through a bunch of updates to install, I noticed that one of them was to fix the change imposed by congress on daylight savings time.
So, I guess, if you keep your computer updated, it'll change on the appropriate date for the appropriate number of hours: whatever they are.
Bob
well now mom says they're saying they're not going to do it. what a relief, that would totally mess the world up I think if they change it by 2 hours instead of one.
wonderwoman
I'd love to know what station your mom listens to. I have never heard a word about a two-hour change - not in the newspapers, not on TV or radio, and not from conversations with friends.
Well, it sure is a relief to know that they aren't going to do what they weren't going to do anyway. Jeesh!
Bob
Ah but Bob how can we prove that they weren't going to do it. I mean why would they bother to announce on this mysterious news channel that only wonderwoman's mother can access that they aren't going to do what they weren't going to do anyway? You see, this is now becoming such a tricky conundrum that i've decided for the remainder of today, I'm not going to hop on the spot on my left leg only, because I haven't been doing it already.
Dan.
well harp, it was a simple mistake. she admits she may've heard it wrong, isn't she allowed to make a mistake?
wonderwoman
I'm not worried about it I just installed the patches for it no biggy.
Troy
yeah i know, so stupid innit
I think daylight savings time is so stupid. For one, you have to set the clocks back. Also, how are you expected to know when daylight savings time begins and ends. I don't sleep good as it is, and time change just makes matters worse.
There are tuns of reminders on tv and the internet.
Where can you find reminders about daylight savings time online? Any good sites that have these?